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	<title>Comments on: A Sacred Space</title>
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		<title>By: AKA</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/01/17/sacred-space/comment-page-1/#comment-7602</link>
		<dc:creator>AKA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who trully want to visit the Shrine of Moulay Abdeslam, must visit first the Shrines of the Sebaat Rejal ( Shrines of the 7 Men) of which they are all over the Village of Beni Arouse.

I suggest, if the visitor is not a Muslim, the visitor must have a guide who is originally one of the Great Great Children of Moulay Adbeslam.

After the Visit to the (7 Men Shrines), the last visit should be to Moulay Abdesslam, and after that, the visitor will have a different outlook and feelings about life.

The Sadaks gieven to the Shorafa is a gift of sharing oneself with others whom may forward their good will unto the giver.

The first time i visisted Moulay Adbdeslam, I was 10 years old, and I toured the (7 Men Shrines) on foot with my father may God Bless him, and the last time I visited Moulay Abdeslam was September 2006.

Last but not least, to know about Moulay Abdeslam is first to know about his people, the Children of Beni Arouse and all the small villages that encompus the Great Village of Beni Arouse.

AKA
(one of Moulay Abdessallam Great Children)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who trully want to visit the Shrine of Moulay Abdeslam, must visit first the Shrines of the Sebaat Rejal ( Shrines of the 7 Men) of which they are all over the Village of Beni Arouse.</p>
<p>I suggest, if the visitor is not a Muslim, the visitor must have a guide who is originally one of the Great Great Children of Moulay Adbeslam.</p>
<p>After the Visit to the (7 Men Shrines), the last visit should be to Moulay Abdesslam, and after that, the visitor will have a different outlook and feelings about life.</p>
<p>The Sadaks gieven to the Shorafa is a gift of sharing oneself with others whom may forward their good will unto the giver.</p>
<p>The first time i visisted Moulay Adbdeslam, I was 10 years old, and I toured the (7 Men Shrines) on foot with my father may God Bless him, and the last time I visited Moulay Abdeslam was September 2006.</p>
<p>Last but not least, to know about Moulay Abdeslam is first to know about his people, the Children of Beni Arouse and all the small villages that encompus the Great Village of Beni Arouse.</p>
<p>AKA<br />
(one of Moulay Abdessallam Great Children)</p>
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		<title>By: Yahia</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/01/17/sacred-space/comment-page-1/#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t comment on My Abdesslam&#039;s life; also, I didn&#039;t (intedn to) criticize you nor the man in the tomb, but the people who go there to be healed etc. instead. (&quot;For most visitors to Moulay Abdeslam&#039;s shrine, it is a place of religious veneration&quot;)

I said that in a rush because I&#039;m kind of angry about it. I remain disliking the fact that people pray alone, go to mosks, visit these sacred places, and so on, just to ask God something for themselves. It&#039;s not faith, it&#039;s superstition, hipocrisy and waste of energy. (God asks his slaves to pray and ask him, but not exclusively.)

So as you can see, i&#039;m not opposing what you&#039;re searching there.

&quot;He left practices and disciples.&quot; I don&#039;t know much about that. All I see is people especially relatives, going there for one reason as said above.

So yeah, I see clear. Now, do you? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t comment on My Abdesslam&#8217;s life; also, I didn&#8217;t (intedn to) criticize you nor the man in the tomb, but the people who go there to be healed etc. instead. (&#8220;For most visitors to Moulay Abdeslam&#8217;s shrine, it is a place of religious veneration&#8221;)</p>
<p>I said that in a rush because I&#8217;m kind of angry about it. I remain disliking the fact that people pray alone, go to mosks, visit these sacred places, and so on, just to ask God something for themselves. It&#8217;s not faith, it&#8217;s superstition, hipocrisy and waste of energy. (God asks his slaves to pray and ask him, but not exclusively.)</p>
<p>So as you can see, i&#8217;m not opposing what you&#8217;re searching there.</p>
<p>&#8220;He left practices and disciples.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know much about that. All I see is people especially relatives, going there for one reason as said above.</p>
<p>So yeah, I see clear. Now, do you? :D</p>
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		<title>By: eatbees</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/01/17/sacred-space/comment-page-1/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>eatbees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jilal — I can see it! thanks :)

@Yahia — I think you&#039;ve only picked up on half of what I&#039;m saying here. It&#039;s true that most people who visit the shrine of Moulay Abedeslam go there for superstitious reasons. But when he was alive, Moulay Abdeslam was a spiritual teacher like Ibn al-&#039;Arabi and others. He left practices and disciples. This &quot;other side&quot; of Moulay Abdeslam is less known, but this what interests me.

When I was there with my friend, I wanted to visit the tomb to pay my respects. The guardians wouldn&#039;t let me because I was a foreigner. I was unhappy about that, but then I realized that perhaps I understood the situation better than they did. After all, Moulay Abdeslam had wandered all over these mountains, and his &quot;feeling&quot; is still in the air. Why should I be concerned about his tomb? Does baraka come from a tomb or from the Real, al-Haqq? Isn&#039;t al-Haqq both inside and outside, everywhere around us? 

What&#039;s interesting about the village of Moulay Abdeslam is there are still people living there who follow the original teachings. I&#039;d like to meet them, and learn more about those teachings. This is different from the &quot;superstitious mind&quot; you are criticizing, it is spiritual philosophy and spiritual practice. Do you see what I&#039;m saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jilal — I can see it! thanks :)</p>
<p>@Yahia — I think you&#8217;ve only picked up on half of what I&#8217;m saying here. It&#8217;s true that most people who visit the shrine of Moulay Abedeslam go there for superstitious reasons. But when he was alive, Moulay Abdeslam was a spiritual teacher like Ibn al-&#8217;Arabi and others. He left practices and disciples. This &#8220;other side&#8221; of Moulay Abdeslam is less known, but this what interests me.</p>
<p>When I was there with my friend, I wanted to visit the tomb to pay my respects. The guardians wouldn&#8217;t let me because I was a foreigner. I was unhappy about that, but then I realized that perhaps I understood the situation better than they did. After all, Moulay Abdeslam had wandered all over these mountains, and his &#8220;feeling&#8221; is still in the air. Why should I be concerned about his tomb? Does baraka come from a tomb or from the Real, al-Haqq? Isn&#8217;t al-Haqq both inside and outside, everywhere around us? </p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting about the village of Moulay Abdeslam is there are still people living there who follow the original teachings. I&#8217;d like to meet them, and learn more about those teachings. This is different from the &#8220;superstitious mind&#8221; you are criticizing, it is spiritual philosophy and spiritual practice. Do you see what I&#8217;m saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Yahia</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/01/17/sacred-space/comment-page-1/#comment-1441</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious cult mixed with naïve and superstitious mind. I have to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious cult mixed with naïve and superstitious mind. I have to agree.</p>
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		<title>By: jilal</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/01/17/sacred-space/comment-page-1/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>jilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ca a fait plaisir de lire tes histoires 
J&#039;imagine bien toutes les scènes que t&#039;as raconté et c&#039;est vrai ça doit être très trés intéressent
On parle des bienfaits de ces saints . je me rappelle petit en algerie.j&#039;avais attraper une maladie alors à l&#039;epoque ma mére m&#039;ammena voir un certain sidi hayoun des l&#039;arrivé il a tenu ma main puis il a cracher 3  fois puis m&#039;a dit tu guerrira ce soir et c&#039;etait ainsi.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ca a fait plaisir de lire tes histoires<br />
J&#8217;imagine bien toutes les scènes que t&#8217;as raconté et c&#8217;est vrai ça doit être très trés intéressent<br />
On parle des bienfaits de ces saints . je me rappelle petit en algerie.j&#8217;avais attraper une maladie alors à l&#8217;epoque ma mére m&#8217;ammena voir un certain sidi hayoun des l&#8217;arrivé il a tenu ma main puis il a cracher 3  fois puis m&#8217;a dit tu guerrira ce soir et c&#8217;etait ainsi.</p>
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