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		<title>By: amre El-abyad</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/03/23/iran-fever-6/comment-page-1/#comment-8327</link>
		<dc:creator>amre El-abyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article. However it seems to me that you are bit carried away by anti-imperial sentiments to the extents that you abandon rational thinking, and  to the extent that you are influenced by the malicious discourse of the war criminals : NAJAD, KHAMEINI AND khomeini

Sometimes, our interests might be aligned with our enemies, in that case we have to grab the chance.

Breaking the back of Iran is and was essential for the rise of a stable Iraq. The fanatic nationalistic Irani revolution (taking the shape of an Islamic one) was calling for toppling the infidel baathist regime while it manipulated the religious influence of Khomeini on southern Iraqis. How do you think Iraq should have responded? Besides, Iran has always been a destabilising agent in Iraq! remember 1973?

The Iranian hostility for Iraq is very natural, as  the Arabic Iraq stands as a barrier against Iranian influence and inclusion into the middle east. Consequently Arab nationalism and Iran are mutually exclusive1

At the moment, there is no doubt that Israel is the eternal enemy of Arabs. For the last 5 decades, their interests have been aligned with Americans&#039;

Never the less, Iran is a more imminent danger. I wouldn&#039;t be exaggerating if I tell you that the dearabisation of Iraq, or at least, bringing it under Iranian influence, means a massive reduction in the strategic weight of Arabs. You had better then forget about the Palestinian cause...... what is the humanitarian democratic world doing for the famines in east Africa, ethnic cleansings in Rowanda and Borondy?

Iran played a nasty role in instigating the sectarian strife by pushing back into Iran Iranian agents (Sistani, Hakim....etc), 2 million citizens of Irani origin which in turn provoked a collective Sunni retaliation against all Shiites. Back then American and and Irani interest were aligned.

In 2003 American and Irani interest were aligned. Iran facilitated the invasion in return for US allowing the influx of Badr and pro-Iran elements in order to help topple the legitimate regime and dearabise Iraq....

Now the situation is different, our interests are partially and temporarily aligned with the Americans. The Arabs HAVE TO STOP BEING THE LOSERS ALL THE TIME LONG . 

We have to play the game for the purpose of winning and to do so we have to be less parochial, more rational and more cunning 

Now  I shall move one into more details that reveals the Iranian malicious threat.take into consideration that a considerable amount of killing in Iraq was carried out by the Iranian backed SCIR (Badr), which is clear that they have a score to settle with Iraqis. Also, the return of the traitors have infuriated the Iraqi patriots and was one of the main factors that started off sectarian strife.

For example, some Arab Shiites in Basra demonstrated against Irani influence in Basra and burned down the Iran consulate. The clan of those people was subjected to a killing campaign by Iranian backed elements.

The Arab Shiites clerics like El-Bohgdady and El-Khalsy are suppressed by the Persian ones like sistany and HAKIM.

Bottom of the line, Iraq would be a much more better place if Iran stays out of it..........
What is funny is that Sistany (Backed by Iran) the supreme Shiite cleric can not speak proper Arabic, and considered the occupation an act of good.

To sum up my rational stance on Iran:

The only way to save the innocent lives in Iraq is a U.S military blow to Iran that would cut off its support to the terrorist groups in Iraq and limit its influence in the Arabian gulf. Iran is playing the card of its agents in Iraq very well. 

On the one hand, by unleashing its agents on Sunni civilians they wear down occupation opposition. On the other, turning their gangs against occupation, makes them , at least, think twice before instigating action against Iran.

One way or the other, it is children and innocent lives that are paying dearly for this.
The problem with Iran, is the complex overlap between religion and Persian nationalism, which in turn makes it quite easy for Iranian government to play the Islamic card with the Muslim world to divert attention from its crimes and gain their sympathy.

As the presumed guardians of Democracy and human rights in this world. U.S-U.K both have a moral duty to install a secular patriotic government (away from Iran&#039;s influence) 
That is the only way from my humble opinion that would transcend sectarian strife- and stop the killing of innocent lives and children that are wasted to save &quot;Nuclear problems and hegemonies ambitions by middle eastern country&quot;

Thereore it is the duty of all Arabs to stand up against the Iranian evil  and teach Iran a lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article. However it seems to me that you are bit carried away by anti-imperial sentiments to the extents that you abandon rational thinking, and  to the extent that you are influenced by the malicious discourse of the war criminals : NAJAD, KHAMEINI AND khomeini</p>
<p>Sometimes, our interests might be aligned with our enemies, in that case we have to grab the chance.</p>
<p>Breaking the back of Iran is and was essential for the rise of a stable Iraq. The fanatic nationalistic Irani revolution (taking the shape of an Islamic one) was calling for toppling the infidel baathist regime while it manipulated the religious influence of Khomeini on southern Iraqis. How do you think Iraq should have responded? Besides, Iran has always been a destabilising agent in Iraq! remember 1973?</p>
<p>The Iranian hostility for Iraq is very natural, as  the Arabic Iraq stands as a barrier against Iranian influence and inclusion into the middle east. Consequently Arab nationalism and Iran are mutually exclusive1</p>
<p>At the moment, there is no doubt that Israel is the eternal enemy of Arabs. For the last 5 decades, their interests have been aligned with Americans&#8217;</p>
<p>Never the less, Iran is a more imminent danger. I wouldn&#8217;t be exaggerating if I tell you that the dearabisation of Iraq, or at least, bringing it under Iranian influence, means a massive reduction in the strategic weight of Arabs. You had better then forget about the Palestinian cause&#8230;&#8230; what is the humanitarian democratic world doing for the famines in east Africa, ethnic cleansings in Rowanda and Borondy?</p>
<p>Iran played a nasty role in instigating the sectarian strife by pushing back into Iran Iranian agents (Sistani, Hakim&#8230;.etc), 2 million citizens of Irani origin which in turn provoked a collective Sunni retaliation against all Shiites. Back then American and and Irani interest were aligned.</p>
<p>In 2003 American and Irani interest were aligned. Iran facilitated the invasion in return for US allowing the influx of Badr and pro-Iran elements in order to help topple the legitimate regime and dearabise Iraq&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now the situation is different, our interests are partially and temporarily aligned with the Americans. The Arabs HAVE TO STOP BEING THE LOSERS ALL THE TIME LONG . </p>
<p>We have to play the game for the purpose of winning and to do so we have to be less parochial, more rational and more cunning </p>
<p>Now  I shall move one into more details that reveals the Iranian malicious threat.take into consideration that a considerable amount of killing in Iraq was carried out by the Iranian backed SCIR (Badr), which is clear that they have a score to settle with Iraqis. Also, the return of the traitors have infuriated the Iraqi patriots and was one of the main factors that started off sectarian strife.</p>
<p>For example, some Arab Shiites in Basra demonstrated against Irani influence in Basra and burned down the Iran consulate. The clan of those people was subjected to a killing campaign by Iranian backed elements.</p>
<p>The Arab Shiites clerics like El-Bohgdady and El-Khalsy are suppressed by the Persian ones like sistany and HAKIM.</p>
<p>Bottom of the line, Iraq would be a much more better place if Iran stays out of it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
What is funny is that Sistany (Backed by Iran) the supreme Shiite cleric can not speak proper Arabic, and considered the occupation an act of good.</p>
<p>To sum up my rational stance on Iran:</p>
<p>The only way to save the innocent lives in Iraq is a U.S military blow to Iran that would cut off its support to the terrorist groups in Iraq and limit its influence in the Arabian gulf. Iran is playing the card of its agents in Iraq very well. </p>
<p>On the one hand, by unleashing its agents on Sunni civilians they wear down occupation opposition. On the other, turning their gangs against occupation, makes them , at least, think twice before instigating action against Iran.</p>
<p>One way or the other, it is children and innocent lives that are paying dearly for this.<br />
The problem with Iran, is the complex overlap between religion and Persian nationalism, which in turn makes it quite easy for Iranian government to play the Islamic card with the Muslim world to divert attention from its crimes and gain their sympathy.</p>
<p>As the presumed guardians of Democracy and human rights in this world. U.S-U.K both have a moral duty to install a secular patriotic government (away from Iran&#8217;s influence)<br />
That is the only way from my humble opinion that would transcend sectarian strife- and stop the killing of innocent lives and children that are wasted to save &#8220;Nuclear problems and hegemonies ambitions by middle eastern country&#8221;</p>
<p>Thereore it is the duty of all Arabs to stand up against the Iranian evil  and teach Iran a lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: homeyra</title>
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		<dc:creator>homeyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eatbees
Thank you for your reply. I think it all make sens: lets say when someone behaves just a little dishonest and get away with it, the next time he&#039;ll push the boundaries and the next and so on ... till eventually one becomes a real crook.
British foreign policy, and now together with the USA have gotten their way so far all around the world. Now it seems it is our turn. 
The contempt of humanitarian concerns, the invalidity of moral stand will (has?) eventually turn against their own body.
It saddens me, not only for Iran, but for the state of the world.
Anyway, keep it up! The world need people who try to see clear and do the little they can do :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eatbees<br />
Thank you for your reply. I think it all make sens: lets say when someone behaves just a little dishonest and get away with it, the next time he&#8217;ll push the boundaries and the next and so on &#8230; till eventually one becomes a real crook.<br />
British foreign policy, and now together with the USA have gotten their way so far all around the world. Now it seems it is our turn.<br />
The contempt of humanitarian concerns, the invalidity of moral stand will (has?) eventually turn against their own body.<br />
It saddens me, not only for Iran, but for the state of the world.<br />
Anyway, keep it up! The world need people who try to see clear and do the little they can do :)</p>
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		<title>By: eatbees</title>
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		<dc:creator>eatbees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@homeyra: Thanks for the links, especially the article on Larisa Alexandrovna&#039;s blog. I&#039;ve seen her reporting before on RawStory.com, but I didn&#039;t know she had a blog of her own.

My working theory is that the Bush administration is schizophrenic and contains officials who are sincerely engaged in what they believe to be high-stakes diplomacy, while there are others who are using the first group (just as they used Colin Powell in 2003) as cover while doing everything they can to provoke a crisis.

I feel a mounting sense of helplessness as I did in the runup to the Iraq war. As L. Alexendrovna points out, Bush may be in so much trouble already that Congress is too distracted with old scandals to keep an eye on what is happening in Iran. Is anyone investigating the covert actions going on inside Iran&#039;s borders? It doesn&#039;t look that way.

May God and humanity forgive us! Even those of us who are aware what is happening can&#039;t find the brakes on this train....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@homeyra: Thanks for the links, especially the article on Larisa Alexandrovna&#8217;s blog. I&#8217;ve seen her reporting before on RawStory.com, but I didn&#8217;t know she had a blog of her own.</p>
<p>My working theory is that the Bush administration is schizophrenic and contains officials who are sincerely engaged in what they believe to be high-stakes diplomacy, while there are others who are using the first group (just as they used Colin Powell in 2003) as cover while doing everything they can to provoke a crisis.</p>
<p>I feel a mounting sense of helplessness as I did in the runup to the Iraq war. As L. Alexendrovna points out, Bush may be in so much trouble already that Congress is too distracted with old scandals to keep an eye on what is happening in Iran. Is anyone investigating the covert actions going on inside Iran&#8217;s borders? It doesn&#8217;t look that way.</p>
<p>May God and humanity forgive us! Even those of us who are aware what is happening can&#8217;t find the brakes on this train&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: homeyra</title>
		<link>http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2007/03/23/iran-fever-6/comment-page-1/#comment-5394</link>
		<dc:creator>homeyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
You have done an impressive research on the subject.
Just a note to bring two links to your attention about this last incident:
http://fanonite.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/guardian-in-the-gutter-flag-waving-time/
http://www.atlargely.com/2007/03/iran_here_we_go.html#more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
You have done an impressive research on the subject.<br />
Just a note to bring two links to your attention about this last incident:<br />
<a href="http://fanonite.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/guardian-in-the-gutter-flag-waving-time/" rel="nofollow">http://fanonite.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/guardian-in-the-gutter-flag-waving-time/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.atlargely.com/2007/03/iran_here_we_go.html#more" rel="nofollow">http://www.atlargely.com/2007/03/iran_here_we_go.html#more</a></p>
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