Comments on: Obama: Drone Flights Continue http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/ "If not now, when?" Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:59:47 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Vincenzo http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-28685 Vincenzo Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:21:13 +0000 http://www.eatbees.com/blog/?p=819#comment-28685 The most frightening in this situation is that the innocent are killed innocent people! When a new person comes to power is always hope that he would change things for the better, but is that everything remains as before and even worse! The most frightening in this situation is that the innocent are killed innocent people! When a new person comes to power is always hope that he would change things for the better, but is that everything remains as before and even worse!

]]> By: Reb http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-28677 Reb Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:21:08 +0000 http://www.eatbees.com/blog/?p=819#comment-28677 One more week to complete my survey on the Blogoma, Moroccan culture, and censorship (it will take about 15 minutes): http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/91515/blogoma-research Thanks in advance for your valuable input! Une semaine de plus pour compléter mon enquête sur la Blogoma, culture marocaine, et la censure (il faudra environ 15 minutes): http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/91515/blogoma-research Merci d'avance pour votre précieuse participation! ????? ??????? ?? ????? ???? : http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/91515/blogoma-research ????! One more week to complete my survey on the Blogoma, Moroccan culture, and censorship (it will take about 15 minutes):
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Thanks in advance for your valuable input!

Une semaine de plus pour compléter mon enquête sur la Blogoma, culture marocaine, et la censure (il faudra environ 15 minutes):
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/91515/blogoma-research
Merci d’avance pour votre précieuse participation!

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]]> By: eatbees http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-28661 eatbees Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:37:37 +0000 http://www.eatbees.com/blog/?p=819#comment-28661 Hisham, I've done what you asked and submitted a complaint in the form of a simple question: "Why have you refused to broadcast an appeal by 13 British charities for aid to help rebuild Gaza after the recent fighting?" I also asked for a reply so we'll see what they say. I encourage others to do this, it takes but a second. If you want to know what it's about, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/24/bbc-gaza-palestine-aid-appealhilis.com/" rel="nofollow">try this link</a>. Hisham, I’ve done what you asked and submitted a complaint in the form of a simple question:

“Why have you refused to broadcast an appeal by 13 British charities for aid to help rebuild Gaza after the recent fighting?”

I also asked for a reply so we’ll see what they say.

I encourage others to do this, it takes but a second. If you want to know what it’s about, try this link.

]]> By: Hisham http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-28659 Hisham Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:45:44 +0000 http://www.eatbees.com/blog/?p=819#comment-28659 I agree, the approach in and of itself is wrong and counterproductive. Each of these attacks works as a recruiting tool for crazies of Alqaida, so it's a foolish policy. Apart from the fact that it is a violation of international law (to the extent that such a thing exists really). I think you're right: it is very plausible that the Pakistanis are to some level, aware of what is planed and may be actively working with the Americans... That makes sense! they should be held accountable by their own people. By the way, eatbees, would you accept to add your voice to those protesting against the BBC's refusal to broadcast British charities' appeal for Gaza. You can file a complaint here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml Buy! I agree, the approach in and of itself is wrong and counterproductive. Each of these attacks works as a recruiting tool for crazies of Alqaida, so it’s a foolish policy. Apart from the fact that it is a violation of international law (to the extent that such a thing exists really). I think you’re right: it is very plausible that the Pakistanis are to some level, aware of what is planed and may be actively working with the Americans… That makes sense! they should be held accountable by their own people.

By the way, eatbees, would you accept to add your voice to those protesting against the BBC’s refusal to broadcast British charities’ appeal for Gaza. You can file a complaint here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml
Buy!

]]> By: eatbees http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-28658 eatbees Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:48:22 +0000 http://www.eatbees.com/blog/?p=819#comment-28658 Hisham, I'm sure he did approve of the operation, at least in general terms. There is probably a list of pre-approved targets, and if one of those people is spotted (or thought to be spotted) the decision to launch the attack probably occurs further down the chain of command. Obama promised in his campaign that he would go after terrorists wherever they are, and if Pakistan wouldn't help, he would do it without their permission. I didn't like it at the time, but I would have hoped that once he was president, he would step back from the rhetoric and reexamine his options before reauthorizing these Bush Doctrine attacks. He's said that he wants robust diplomacy, so he should put that first. The Paklstanis are a sovereign nation and a democracy like ourselves. We can't just ignore that. On the other hand, it's possible that Pakistan does approve these attacks, in which case they should say so publicly. In either case, there's a lack of transparency and accountability. How do we know the targets were terrorists? If a mistargeting occurs, how do we keep it from happening again? At what level were the attacks approved, with the knowledge of the Pakistani authorities or not? With greater transparency I still wouldn't like it (robot aircraft firing missiles from the sky is a form of terrorism itself) but I would feel that Obama is attempting to place his war policy under the authority of the American people, which is the least he could do as a "progressive leader." Hisham, I’m sure he did approve of the operation, at least in general terms. There is probably a list of pre-approved targets, and if one of those people is spotted (or thought to be spotted) the decision to launch the attack probably occurs further down the chain of command.

Obama promised in his campaign that he would go after terrorists wherever they are, and if Pakistan wouldn’t help, he would do it without their permission. I didn’t like it at the time, but I would have hoped that once he was president, he would step back from the rhetoric and reexamine his options before reauthorizing these Bush Doctrine attacks.

He’s said that he wants robust diplomacy, so he should put that first. The Paklstanis are a sovereign nation and a democracy like ourselves. We can’t just ignore that. On the other hand, it’s possible that Pakistan does approve these attacks, in which case they should say so publicly. In either case, there’s a lack of transparency and accountability.

How do we know the targets were terrorists? If a mistargeting occurs, how do we keep it from happening again? At what level were the attacks approved, with the knowledge of the Pakistani authorities or not? With greater transparency I still wouldn’t like it (robot aircraft firing missiles from the sky is a form of terrorism itself) but I would feel that Obama is attempting to place his war policy under the authority of the American people, which is the least he could do as a “progressive leader.”

]]> By: Hisham http://www.eatbees.com/blog/2009/01/24/drone-flights-continue/comment-page-1/#comment-28657 Hisham Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:10:42 +0000 http://www.eatbees.com/blog/?p=819#comment-28657 Either Obama willingly approved of the operation, and his previous declarations hinted at the possibility that he wouldn't basically disrupt the logic of interventionism in either Afghanistan or Pakistan; or -and that is even more frightening- he didn't had knowledge of the operation and the somehow autonomized military command will stick to the Bush doctrine through think an thin. In both accounts Obama has failed as a responsible progressive leader and I have to say I'm quite sceptical about either his abilities to change things or his intentions anyway. Thank you for your impassionate plea. Either Obama willingly approved of the operation, and his previous declarations hinted at the possibility that he wouldn’t basically disrupt the logic of interventionism in either Afghanistan or Pakistan; or -and that is even more frightening- he didn’t had knowledge of the operation and the somehow autonomized military command will stick to the Bush doctrine through think an thin. In both accounts Obama has failed as a responsible progressive leader and I have to say I’m quite sceptical about either his abilities to change things or his intentions anyway.

Thank you for your impassionate plea.

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